Texas: Election Eve

First things first.  I want to begin by congratulating both the Clinton and Obama campaigns for the enthusiasm and the extraordinary, professional conduct of their campaigns. We have not had the opportunity for national campaigns to descend upon Texas with quite this intensity. Maybe in 1988. Then, and previously, the campaigns were patronizing, ill-informed about Texas, dismissive of local activists, party officials, and other Democrats who live and work here. I believe the respect both campaigns have shown state workers and voters is due to the character of the candidates. I also think it is a consequence of a bottom-up progressive movement that requires respect.

So what's going to happen? Who knows. Looking at the internals of all the public polls, it would appear to be a real toss-up. Obama dominates in the major urban areas, Clinton the rural areas, largely because of Hispanic voters. It boils down to a question of turnout. Who will turn out, and where. This much, I guess everyone knows.

What insight can I give you from decades of experience here?

If early voting is a marker, African-American turnout will exceed all expectations. That will be to Obama's advantage. Hispanic turnout will also be good, and that should be to Clinton's advantage. The question is, with all demographics turning out in larger numbers, will Hispanics' percentage of the electorate actually remain static or shrink. I think +50 year old white women are fired up for Clinton. I think the exit polls will have some surprises there.

I had a conversation with three women at the Houston Progressive Forum last Thursday. All three said they liked Obama and expected him to be the nominee. All voted for Clinton, saying they felt solidarity with her. I think this is an understandable, heartfelt vote deserving respect. And I think the exit polls are going to reveal it.

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Interestingly, Clinton's experience argument doesn't seem to be working, even as her numbers improve. Look at the Belo poll to see what I mean.

This leads me to believe that the Texas Democratic electorate had already made up their minds, more or less, before the persuasion campaign even began in earnest. Some may have been looking for a rationale for their preference, but they are breaking more or less the way everyone expected them to break.

Another clue that this may be true is that Clinton's preference numbers have improved while her positive/negative ratio has actually gotten worse, from +2 to -4. This is close enough to the margin of error that it may not mean much. But it might mean that even slightly more negative feelings are not effecting, say, solidarity among older women.

There's much talk nationally about Texas' "primacaucus," and some consternation about the caucuses and how the campaigns will approach them. There's nothing all that odd about how Texas is doing this. The primary vote by Senate district is intended to balance support and protect individual preferences. The caucuses are intended to boost political participation. In this particular election the system is giving Obama a slight advantage in the delegate apportionment. But that is only because of his organizational advantage, and the coincidence that his support might be strongest in caucuses with more delegates.

I believe this does mean, though, that Clinton will have a strategy of damping discussion of the delegate results Tuesday night and Wednesday morning. Whether she wins or finishes a close second, the campaign will want to focus on the popular vote, not the delegate count. This bears watching.

While we are looking at the popular vote Tuesday night, beware of El Paso, which is one hour behind the rest of Texas. Polls there close one hour later. Clinton will do well in El Paso. I don't know what plans the networks have with regard to calling Texas, but they'd better be aware of El Paso.

In any other contest, early vote would have skewed to older voters, those in the habit of voting. That would have given Clinton an advantage. I'm not certain it will be the case, this time. Younger voters may have turned out in similar numbers. So I'm not going to be certain what conclusions to draw from the early vote results. Polls seem to suggest that Obama may win it. I don't know if that will turn out to be true, and I don't know how it may influence the total vote. Most early voters and just that, voters who happened to vote early. This year many Democrats who don't have primary voting history appear to have voted early. Also, despite widespread beliefs, not that many with GOP primary history, only 2 or 3 percent, have voted in the Democratic primary.

Finally, I survived what was previously the most hard-fought primary in Texas, the 1990 race between Ann Richards and Attorney General Jim Mattox. I even managed that one. By the end of the race, all sides had come together in mutual respect. We beat the Republican in November.

I say that to make it clear that while I am Obama supporter, I have the deepest respect for those who prefer Clinton. Many of those in her Texas campaign leadership were with us when we fought for Ann in 1990. And I look forward to working with them on behalf of the eventual nominee.



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Re: Texas: Election Eve (2.00 / 2)

Obama will take Texas.  He wins a bigger % of the African-American vote than Hillary's % of the Latino vote.  And with the exception of NH, he has generally outperformed the polls.

Hillary will take Ohio by just enough to claim that it justifies her continued presence in the race.  The truth is, her highly-paid team of incompetent advisors needs her to stay in the race.  They have a huge professional investment in the outcome, and given their lackluster performance thus far, they are desperately seeking salvation.  I don't think any professional politico would be proud to see "Ran Hillary Clinton's 2008 Presidential Bid" on their resume.


by global yokel on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 03:02:23 PM EST

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Great , i have seen a few of your diaries which i didn't think much of for obvious reasons but i commend you on this one .

Here in Tennessee , a lot of women have been praying for her to win march 4th especially older ones in coffee stands , lunch breaks etc.

Granted i am in my 20's , there is a lot of solidarity for her especially with the way she has had to deal with a fawning press.

A lot of the older ones usually say ,

Women are never the frontrunner , i heard it even when she was ahead.

Words of wisdom


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 03:02:25 PM EST

I respect your views, but one question (none / 0)

I understand that many people think the press is unfairly critical of Hillary etc, but let's be perfectly honest, if the shoe was on the other foot and Obama had the kind of February that Hillary just did - do you think that the media would be any easier on him? To be honest the only person I've seen in the media to outright call for Hillary to drop out is Jonathan Alter, and no one really takes him seriously anymore. But if it were the other way around, I have to believe that the media would be all over him to drop out and concede.


by highgrade on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 03:07:47 PM EST
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While what you're saying has logical appeal, I'm not sure I buy it.  I remember when Hillary was trashed at the Philadelphia debate and the talking point was "the media is always tough on the frontrunner."  Well, now Obama is the frontrunner and we see that the debate questioning isn't anything like it was in Philadelphia.

So while you can argue "the media is always tough on the flagging campaign," I don't think we'd find that Obama was treated the same way during those stages of the campaign where his prospects didn't look so hot.  I think the media just loves to trash Hillary.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 03:12:53 PM EST
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Personally I reckon the media has it's thumb on the scale to keep the story as fractious and dramatic as possible for the sake of ratings.  Both candidates are equally susceptible to this phenomenon, for them it is no doubt like trying to run a campaign in a village with an unpredictable and destructive dragon living in a nearby cave.  Look at this morning's headlines, Clinton's fighting comeback in advance of polling.  Next week they will be at her throat again, or Obama's, as their fickle preference dictates.

I mean look at the NYT endorsement of McCain followed by a two day news cycle of unproven allegations of romantic infidelity from the same source.  What the hell is that?


by Shaun Appleby on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 03:33:25 PM EST
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Highgrade, it's not a quetion of media dumping on the campaign's effectivness or chance of succeeding when they fall behind.  As you say, there's nothing particularly unusual about that.  But that's not what "unfairly critical" is referring to here.

It's the sneering, belittling, demonizing personal characterization of HRC that's been a constant now for a lot of years but has of course gotten much worse with this campaign.  MSM has jumped hard on every misstep, everything she or her campaign says that can possibly be misinterpreted, misquoted, etc.

Obama has certainly had some of that, but nowhere near the constant drumbeat of negativity towards HRC.  ie, she's cold and calculating, but if she chokes up, she's fake and manipulative, etc.  And the gross misogyny is extended to women voters who support her-- we're told we voted for her only because we felt sorry for her.  And on and on and on.  


by gyrfalcon on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 04:35:35 PM EST
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Women are never the frontrunner?  We have 16 in the Senate who must have been frontrunners as they won.  We have women as governors.  Why the need for this self pity.  If your (female) candidate is ahead, just enjoy it, no need to kvetch.


by mady on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 10:37:48 PM EST
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how about survey usa showing hillary rodham clinton winning the early voting ?

I think i'll rather use survey usa as a yardstick , feel free to hang your hat on belo.


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 03:05:30 PM EST

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Not that many GOP Primary voters crossing over, but GOP primaries have even lower turnout than (normal) Democratic primaries. Lots of GOP voters are crossing over, some to stay, others just for the day.


by IVR Polls on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 03:06:42 PM EST

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hey are you going to release a final poll for texas , if not what does your polling tell you or instincts  is going to happen in texas tommorrow


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 03:08:33 PM EST
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IVR poll 3/2 (none / 0)

Clinton up 49-46.


by ineedalife on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 03:29:02 PM EST
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It's up at my site


by IVR Polls on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 03:09:28 PM EST

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okay , great.

would be nice if you diaried it on this blog , like you did your last one.

great analysis , trusted poll.


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 03:15:26 PM EST
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Thanks (none / 0)

May get around to it.


by IVR Polls on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 03:19:06 PM EST
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If you do can you explain in more detail why you think the 2004 exit poll was wrong in regard to minorities please. All evidence seems to suggest a large turnout of both latinos and blacks and Burnt Orange Report thinks the breakdown will be closer in both to the mid-twenties.


by conspiracy on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 05:48:52 PM EST
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Because I have a copy of the voter file in a database and I queried the actual results.

I've also led data analysis for a statewide primary campaign and know the voting patterns.

As far as Burnt Orange, I'm not sure what you are referring to, but if something was putting turnout for both groups in the mid twenties, I would guess that the exit polls were used as a reference.


by IVR Polls on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 09:07:51 PM EST
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Glenn - I am a native Texan and I volunteered for Ann Richards in my hometown of Fort Worth.  You are right - Texas politics have always been pretty rowdy but we have managed to pull together when it was needed.  Except when that scumbag Bush came in and stole the Governorship from Ann... that sucked!


by JustJennifer on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 03:10:53 PM EST

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The early voting poll, is still just a poll.
You can see from the fact that there are conflicting results posted.
But one could argue one way or the other why one's demographic would be more willing to vote early than the other.
by rolnitzky on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 03:18:40 PM EST

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But, Glenn, who's gunna' win?


by Bob Johnson on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 03:23:47 PM EST

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We are.


by Glenn Smith on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 03:26:41 PM EST
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great stuff, glenn. thanks.


by Todd Beeton on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 03:33:39 PM EST

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the weather should be an interesting factor. if bad weather hits ohio, wouldn't the older voters, blue collar workers, and less enthused voters be most likely to sit out?  (not making a claim, just musing) which could help obama.  still, with susa saying clinton by ten, i'm gonna say C-54 to O-46.  still, turnout is going to be the biggest factor.  


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by Doug Tuttle on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 03:43:25 PM EST

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Yes. (Simple answers to simple questions...)


by gyrfalcon on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 04:38:01 PM EST
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"I say that to make it clear that while I am Obama supporter, I have the deepest respect for those who prefer Clinton. Many of those in her Texas campaign leadership were with us when we fought for Ann in 1990. And I look forward to working with them on behalf of the eventual nominee."

What a great thing to say.  Thank you!

Can we have some more of this, please, from the Obama camp?  A lot of us in the HRC camp are pretty black-and-blue at this point.


by gyrfalcon on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 04:40:06 PM EST

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Penn today, in the Washington Post, credited the 3 a.m. ad with her momentum.  At this point, all I can say is for bravo to Edwards, and Gore, and Carter, and those who focus their lives around issues and not the game of poltics.  You know the line "I wouldn't want to be a member of any club that would have me in it."  I'm thinking I'm not sure anymore I want a president who did what it took to get there.  


by mady on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 05:06:20 PM EST

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Glenn Smith, thanks for taking the time to write up the TX primary campaign here and I look forward to some analysis tomorrow night or Wed. I'm a big fan of your book, The Politics of Deceit, especially the part about how such a large % of conservatives get their information and form opinions in closed feedback loops -- a phenomenon that I fear has developed among some Democrats during the primary campaign. Your contributions here , as so much of the best writing here, helps break those loops.


by desmoulins on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 05:56:48 PM EST

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Thank you. I have to admit I fell victim myself to this syndrome, and I plan on writing about my personal experience with it at some point in the future.

I'm glad to hear you enjoyed the book, too. It's very gratifying to hear, since once your book is out there you know others are holding it their hands, but you don't know if you have achieved the reader relationship you hoped for.

Keep the faith,

Glenn


by Glenn Smith on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 08:59:13 PM EST
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For those interested in seeing a smart cookie, go to hillaryclinton.com and watch her Texas Town Hall, hosted by the excellent Eva Longoria.


by demmonty on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 09:13:19 PM EST


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